tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6181780691238814823.post1203414145495475378..comments2023-08-28T23:22:07.966+10:00Comments on Living with Bob (Dysautonomia): Be quiet little disabled person. You are making me uncomfortable.Michelle Rogerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16472120868084570461noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6181780691238814823.post-51673698822031994452014-07-28T11:53:27.425+10:002014-07-28T11:53:27.425+10:00Thanks Sam. Troll, Lynch mob, Bullying are all wor...Thanks Sam. Troll, Lynch mob, Bullying are all words used in this case to transform the perpetrator to victim and silence any objections. Valid criticism isn't a lynch mob. I also don't like the idea that we are so thick that Tom Elliot is some sort of Pied Piper and we are all just following along mindlessly. Or that it is being portrayed as a "war" between 2 radio personalities, thus wiping out the voices of PwD yet again.<br /><br />Owning the behaviour and a sincere no excuses apology would have gone a long way to silencing the issue. <br /><br />Must admit I did have similar visions of the lynch mob which gave me a giggle. ;) Michelle Rogerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16472120868084570461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6181780691238814823.post-38997102460938682052014-07-27T11:51:36.548+10:002014-07-27T11:51:36.548+10:00This is by far the most intelligent commentary I h...This is by far the most intelligent commentary I have seen on the whole matter. Like you, I object strongly to being called a 'troll' when someone takes the piss out of us. The objections on the Australian Disability Parking Wall of Shame and in the mainstream media have been largely just that, objections. <br /><br />If this woman entered an art competition for Aboriginal people, purposefully or accidentally, then painted her face black in order to skulk out without recognition, and THEN used it as comedy material on her radio show, and then said that she 'wasn't imitating black people when she painted her face black' - would there be outrage? Hell YES there would be outrage. <br /><br />As much as I am amused by the thought of a limping, gimping, pitchfork wielding lynch mob with nooses and flaming brands attached to our zimmer frames and wheelchairs, I doubt very much that Ms Box has been 'victimised' in any way. She should have just apologised, told the world she'd screwed up, and moved right along. Sam Connorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13141049964749377481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6181780691238814823.post-32876684893358621012014-07-27T11:46:59.767+10:002014-07-27T11:46:59.767+10:00No worries Lisa I guessed you must have landed her...No worries Lisa I guessed you must have landed here via Carly :)Michelle Rogerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16472120868084570461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6181780691238814823.post-77408217054776499842014-07-26T21:00:49.905+10:002014-07-26T21:00:49.905+10:00Sorry Michelle, I just reread my post and realised...Sorry Michelle, I just reread my post and realised I'd called you Carly by mistake! I'd just made a comment on another blog (Carly's) and obviously had her on my mind when I replied! Awesome post in any case!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6181780691238814823.post-55384551175253510792014-07-25T19:36:21.285+10:002014-07-25T19:36:21.285+10:00Thank you Kirsty. I hate that you are worried abou...Thank you Kirsty. I hate that you are worried about having to justify your use of a permit. I had the same feeling for a long time. Before needing a wheelchair to get out and about I had a time of just needing a cane or being able to walk a few delicate metres unaided. I couldn't stomach the idea of getting a permit and having to justify why and felt like others needed it more. I left it too long in reality. But it is issues like this that make people wonder and judge. Even if by chance she did accidently (her response) park there, her behaviour subsequent to that discovery compounds the whole issue. Michelle Rogerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16472120868084570461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6181780691238814823.post-91419366894121168432014-07-25T19:28:50.264+10:002014-07-25T19:28:50.264+10:00Thanks Sheri Bomb. :) The voice of the people able...Thanks Sheri Bomb. :) The voice of the people able-bodied or disabled have been silenced and it's all playing out as an issue between two radio personalities. I think that is irritating me more at the moment. there's a token tweet or soundbite from someone with a disability but the whole thrust is about 2 radio identities at war. Once more the voice of Pwds is silence or relegated to the role of minor player. <br /><br />The issue with disability parking places all comes down to no permit, no park. It's not about visible or invisible disability, but if there's no permit you cannot park there. Michelle Rogerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16472120868084570461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6181780691238814823.post-38512835975626995522014-07-25T19:20:38.608+10:002014-07-25T19:20:38.608+10:00There are so many levels to the issue. The parking...There are so many levels to the issue. The parking, the limp, the stereotype, the lynch mob, the I am victim, the we are unable to form our own opinions and must be told, being told or opinion is wrong, the list goes on.Michelle Rogerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16472120868084570461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6181780691238814823.post-44207708034474256592014-07-25T19:18:40.170+10:002014-07-25T19:18:40.170+10:00I agree Jessica. I had to jump through hoops to ge...I agree Jessica. I had to jump through hoops to get my permit. I had to stuff down pride and still feel guilty for using it, stupid I know. Yet on those shocker days I can't walk the length of my car to my wheelchair. If I'm stuck in a regular park my wheelchair doesn't fit next to the car door. It means I can't get out. We do the hard yards of living with disability and that park is a small consolation to allow us easier access. To park illegally, mimic and then make it a skit on her show. It grates. Michelle Rogerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16472120868084570461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6181780691238814823.post-42957024605419017822014-07-25T19:15:21.624+10:002014-07-25T19:15:21.624+10:00Thanks Cate :)Thanks Cate :)Michelle Rogerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16472120868084570461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6181780691238814823.post-11112971116011311782014-07-25T19:15:07.448+10:002014-07-25T19:15:07.448+10:00To be honest I did have a hissy fit when I first h...To be honest I did have a hissy fit when I first heard about it. After calming down a bit I wrote this. In many ways the specific issue itself isn't so much the issue as to what it represents and the behaviour afterwards. The abuse of disabled parking bays is rife and it's always seen as a low level issue. Yet its just a tip of the iceberg issue in the way the disabled are seen and treated currently. This one issue illuminates a whole range of issues facing PwDs. I look at what has happened in the UK and hope we don't get there. :(Michelle Rogerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16472120868084570461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6181780691238814823.post-39037709144291433062014-07-25T19:10:43.703+10:002014-07-25T19:10:43.703+10:00Thanks Cassandra. I think the perception that if w...Thanks Cassandra. I think the perception that if we hadn't been 'told' it was wrong we would have been unable to work it out ourselves irritates me no end. I don't need to be told that parking illegally in a disabled bay, affecting a limp, and then using the incident for a joke on her show is wrong.Michelle Rogerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16472120868084570461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6181780691238814823.post-17564523710799012122014-07-25T19:08:08.840+10:002014-07-25T19:08:08.840+10:00Thanks hugzillablog. I think if she'd used it ...Thanks hugzillablog. I think if she'd used it as an educational issue, eg I cocked up and it's not okay, it would have flown under the radar. But to not only do it, but then use it on the show for a laugh, the line is crossed and many are angry for the after the fact attitude as much as the original incident. Michelle Rogerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16472120868084570461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6181780691238814823.post-5183517582279832542014-07-25T19:06:00.047+10:002014-07-25T19:06:00.047+10:00And that's the thing it shouldn't need exp...And that's the thing it shouldn't need experience to feel empathy. Plenty of people, disabled and non-disabled get it just fine. But, sadly, I think some people will never get it. Michelle Rogerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16472120868084570461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6181780691238814823.post-78246953336571818062014-07-25T18:03:37.969+10:002014-07-25T18:03:37.969+10:00Spot on Michelle and good call on not standing by ...Spot on Michelle and good call on not standing by and remaining silent. I could get a parking permit for my son who is legally blind and has autism but I don't want to have to defend using the spot as his disability is not visible. Also, to be honest, there are people out there who need that park more than we do - at least he has me to guide him safely through the carpark. I am constantly amazed that people have the hide to abuse these parks when they clearly have no right to do so. I just don't get it...Kirstyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14645347058596682545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6181780691238814823.post-20568180874860015882014-07-25T12:38:34.867+10:002014-07-25T12:38:34.867+10:00I am a healthy, able bodied person and I am gratef...I am a healthy, able bodied person and I am grateful for that every day. However this sort of thing REALLY pisses me off! Her behaviour since the original issue is deplorable, but the act itself also really bothers me. It's the ultimate in lazy, selfish entitlement. Like life isn't already difficult enough for those living with a disability, for some able bodied person to come along and decide that their needs are more important really gets my blood boiling!<br /><br />One day I was walking into the shops when I noticed a car park in a disabled parking spot, with no permit showing. I went back to my car and found a pen and paper and wrote a little note which I left under their windscreen saying: You're not fucking disable so DON'T FUCKING PARK HERE!!! I hope as they walked back to their car they saw it and thought it was a ticket. Then when they saw it I hope they realised it was worse than a ticket. Sometimes I still think about it, about what if it was actually a disabled person who's permit had just fallen down. I like to think that they wouldn't be offended and would just be glad that someone had their back. Sheri Bombhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18220906981157426429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6181780691238814823.post-31170193217716629602014-07-25T09:58:25.684+10:002014-07-25T09:58:25.684+10:00Great post, Carly. I wholeheartedly agree. It'...Great post, Carly. I wholeheartedly agree. It's bad enough that this presenter did what she did, but to laugh about it on radio is appalling. To continue to disrespect those in the community she has offended by 'playing the victim' and defending her actions shows her complete lack of understanding of the issue. She clearly needs to be educated.<br /><br />I'm always concerned about the stereotyping of people with disabilities. The idea that a person is not disabled if the world can't immediately see the disability is outdated and ignorant.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6181780691238814823.post-28472916861023679732014-07-25T05:36:15.833+10:002014-07-25T05:36:15.833+10:00I caught H1N1 back in 2009 and from it have develo...I caught H1N1 back in 2009 and from it have developed gastro paresis as well as fibromyalgia; I'm lucky if I can even get out of bed and I still had to fight for sometime to get my permit. I totally agree with this article. Parking lots can be quite packed as it is and a few feet can make a huge difference for someone who is markedly restricted. Does she not realize that someone who actually needed the spot may have been forced to park further away from the entrance then they could handle because she was committing fraud (call me sensitive, but yeah, I would consider it fraud!)? It's as if she rode one of the wheel chairs at Walmart because she was lazy. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6181780691238814823.post-12341860816725658432014-07-24T19:47:17.581+10:002014-07-24T19:47:17.581+10:00A wonderful post, I agree with you A wonderful post, I agree with you Cate Lawrencehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11068520532566968605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6181780691238814823.post-50870388772128347252014-07-24T19:41:35.506+10:002014-07-24T19:41:35.506+10:00Only the lowest of the low would publicly brag abo...Only the lowest of the low would publicly brag about this on a radio show. I think its hilarious that she called those who attacked her a lynch mob. No hun, you were in the wrong and you used the disabled community to either get cheap laughs or get some street cred. You are so right Michelle when you say we can no longer walk on by. I think she believed that due to what is happening politically in Australia at the moment ( what we have already gone through here in the UK) makes it socially acceptable to mock the disabled because as the media likes to claim, most of us are faking it anyway and we are a bunch of scroungers. Since the coalition government has come into power in the UK and Si fled out disabled people guess what hate crime including violence has increased. Disabled people are being abused more than ever. When confronted with this kind of bigotry you must stand up to it. It truly disgusts me. Michelle your response has been very restrained I don't think I would have managed it.The Myasthenia Kidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11584534247370646805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6181780691238814823.post-30666888901316014282014-07-24T19:23:49.970+10:002014-07-24T19:23:49.970+10:00"'Now I need to point out I wasn't im..."'Now I need to point out I wasn't imitating a disabled person I have far more respect for them.'"<br />So what exactly WOULD you call faking a limp after parking in a handicapped spot? Imitating an Olympic triathlete?! Dumb.<br /><br />"Shut up and smile for the photo op PwDs. We like our disabled inspirational or pity worthy. Not pissy and noisy."<br />As though, because our bodies don't work perfectly in one way or another, it's sapped us of intelligence, of dignity and worth? I think not.<br /><br />"You may not understand my outrage. You may not understand what you did wrong. But that is your limited comprehension and empathy. And it doesn't make your behaviour any more palatable, or my outrage any less valid." YESSSSS!Cassandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12407466438773284596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6181780691238814823.post-34944613651919534852014-07-24T18:24:12.901+10:002014-07-24T18:24:12.901+10:00This is such a brilliant response, and to be hones...This is such a brilliant response, and to be honest, I'm gobsmacked by this whole thing. To mock and laugh at people with disabilities and then play the victim when called on it. Unbelievable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6181780691238814823.post-19241043805290980932014-07-24T15:54:24.133+10:002014-07-24T15:54:24.133+10:00i'm wondering how this 'local radio person...i'm wondering how this 'local radio personality' would feel, if her own car (mobility) was stolen, and she was trapped at home for days/weeks, unable to leave the house. then she hears another 'radio personality' laughing bragging about the theft. 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